Welcome back for another episode of Heroes of the Creative Revolution, the series where we speak with creative and design leaders about how they produce great work and inspire others to do the same. In this episode, we speak with DesignOps veteran Dave Malouf to discuss his experience consulting for design operations and running it in-house. Watch the video below to learn about his experience and insights. 

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0:00 - Intro

0:41 - About Dave Malouf

1:30 - Design Ops as a Consultant vs In-house

7:51 - Tension Between Design & Product

13:00 - Horizontal Operations

18:33 - DesignOps Career Advice

21:02 - A Big DesignOps Challenge He Likes

20:31 - Design Ops Career Advice

23:49 - Fun of DesignOps